If South hade win

[Webmaster]

I wonder what had happend if south had win the war and how would america been today

[tineak]

If the South wins, America balkanizes.

Here is a summary of D-Day: Field Marshall Montgomery led UK and Commonwealth forces into France supported by state militias who couldn't agree on a common commander.

July 20th, 1969, doesn't happen.

The super power on the North American continent is Canada, followed by California. All the other states must follow and now have no say in the matter.

[Webmaster Ann]

If the South wins, America balkanizes.

Here is a summary of D-Day: Field Marshall Montgomery led UK and Commonwealth forces into France supported by state militias who couldn't agree on a common commander.

July 20th, 1969, doesn't happen.

The super power on the North American continent is Canada, followed by California. All the other states must follow and now have no say in the matter.

But on the south side had won, how would the United States set out today.
I do not mean that you have had slavery remains.
This is the most playing with the idea to ask how would it looked like today, or how would the world was like.
Ann

[Erudite]

  It was not the desire of the South to conquer the North but the North would be willing to declare a ceasefire and acknowledge an end to hostilities. Leaving The South to self govern avoiding any further incursions from northern aggressions. A look at a previous secession attempt by the northern states caused James Madison to declare war against England in 1812 to stop such secession. So the idea of secession was quite prevalent during the early years between the northern states and the southern states. Winning was not a plausable idea. Why do so many continue "What if"? Once the end to hostilities happened, the healing process would have reunited the country out of pure necessity. An end to the institution of slavery would have been a natural progression. Had Lincoln not been assassinated, the rebuilding of our nation would have given all a chance to be what the human spirit is capable of accomplishing.  Slavery is only a part of the problem in the differences between North and South. The northern money was jealous of the southern power. That was the reason for the decision to remove the only means of harvesting cotton. NOT human rights. Had the South won, look not at what they lost, but at what the the North lost after the war - Integrity, Honor, and Character. Those things that made the South strong. Those things that would have made the difference in making the uniting of our country a sure thing ending the very things that the so called zealots were vocal against. History revisionists have painted a different picture. Lets hope that truth will stand strong against those that would make our government schools the disiminators of false propaganda.

[unionblue]

Erudite,

There were no previous secession attempts you allude to in the North.

Secession was much talked about by some, but always turned down as a bad idea, even by a majority of the South in the 1830s and 1850s.  Slavery was the issue that could no longer be contained and hence secession became the vehicle to protect that institution.

As for northern money being jealous of Southern power, most capitalists in the North were quite content to leave things just they way they were, even to the point of going to Lincoln and trying to have him give even more concessions to the South, just so there would be no war and no danger to business and profits.

I submit to you Integrity, Honor, and Character, in the defense of an institution that kept about four million human beings in bondage had really nothing to do with the three areas you mention.

History has recorded what happened and for what reasons and there has been many attempts to repaint it through the years.  Trying to twist it into something that it was not would be the real disminators of false propaganda.

Unionblue

[Timotheus]

“What if” is a fun game, even if somewhat fruitless.  Let’s see…
If the South had “won,” it would most likely have been due to the Union population’s revolt against the Federal government due to heavy losses – a matter of attrition, not a matter of southern triumph.  The cease fire would have been uneasy at best.  The Confederate government, already a weak and spindly thing, would have had to contend with major and minor pro-Unionist revolts in the mountain areas, a total inability to force the Union to give back West Virginia or Missouri, and a weak economy made weaker by angry northern politicians enforcing trade sanctions or embargoes.  A resurgence in trade early on with the UK would likely have been hampered as more and more pressure was brought in Parliament to stop importing slave produce (after all, that is supporting an illegal institution).
The Union would have continued its westward expansion and northern industrialization, becoming more and more wealthy, while the Confederacy would hardly have advanced any further than they did under reconstruction, comparatively.  The Union would not have allowed southern expansion.  In fact, one or more states, fed up with the Confederate system, might have asked for reinstatement in the Union - if they were able to swallow their pride, that is.
The CSA would have found that slavery was becoming more and more of a liability than an asset, especially as modern machines made slave labor no longer a necessity for large scale farming.  Faced with the reality, they would finally have proceeded with a much-argued program of emancipation, probably partly modeled on the Liberia experiment, where they attempt to shift many of the ex-slaves to Africa in exchange for their manumission or some such.  Despite this, the great majority of the slaves would have been released in the south, with large portions immigrating to the Union, if the Union didn’t decide to close its borders to them.  (Or they become the “undocumented workers”/”illegal immigrants” of the era.) 
Perhaps some time in the early 20th century, talk of reconciliation and reunion comes up, and some great leader takes a hand in reforging the nation as one. 
Well, it’s only a fantasy after all.  ;-)